Windows 10 Consumer Edition Là Gì

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I have Windows 10 deployed. All done through the free upgrade last year. Some of them, after the upgrade, were clean installed from the ISO from MS.

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All are running 1607. MS new updates to 1709 last week, through WSUS. Same KB, but one is titled “Feature update to Windows 10 (business editions)” and the other “Feature update tp Windows 10 (consumer editions)”. My workstations are split about 50/50 between the 2. Anyone has any idea what the actual differences are and should I re-image my “consumer edition” desktops?

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Makes no sense to me.

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Chris (Microsoft) Jan 23, 2018 at 19:45 UTC

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Do you know which update it was? https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4043454

I haven”t heard anything on this… can”t find much either.

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Jan 23, 2018 at 19:49 UTC

No idea. The “more Info” link sends me here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4018124/windows-10-update-history?ocid=client_wu

and opens up the updates for 1703. All my workstations are on 1607.

The appear to just supersede 2 other ones, adding the edition to the description. My biggest question is what is the difference in the editions and should I re-image the “consumer” edition?

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Chris (Microsoft) Jan 23, 2018 at 19:51 UTC

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I”ve asked internally and will share what I can. Stay tuned.

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NathM Jan 23, 2018 at 20:09 UTC

v1709 only has 2 types of media

Now, instead of having separate media and packages for Windows 10 Pro (volume licensing version), Windows 10 Enterprise, and Windows 10 Education, all three will be bundled together.

and the other media has Windows 10 Home, Windows 10 S and Windows 10 Pro in it.

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Jan 23, 2018 at 20:15 UTC

Could it refer to that? the VL install is business edition and the OEM is consumer edition? If so, it is a new level of stupid in MS nomenclature.

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Jan 23, 2018 at 20:16 UTC

NathM wrote:

v1709 only has 2 types of media

Now, instead of having separate media and packages for Windows 10 Pro (volume licensing version), Windows 10 Enterprise, and Windows 10 Education, all three will be bundled together.

and the other media has Windows 10 Home, Windows 10 S and Windows 10 Pro in it.

So Windows 10 Pro OEM or Retail is called Consumer while Windows 10 Pro VL is called Business?That”s just brilliant.

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DragonsRule wrote:

NathM wrote:

v1709 only has 2 types of media

Now, instead of having separate media and packages for Windows 10 Pro (volume licensing version), Windows 10 Enterprise, and Windows 10 Education, all three will be bundled together.

and the other media has Windows 10 Home, Windows 10 S and Windows 10 Pro in it.

So Windows 10 Pro OEM or Retail is called Consumer while Windows 10 Pro VL is called Business?That”s just brilliant.

And that”s especially weird because my W10 Pro VL machines start reporting in the VAMT as having retail keys after feature upgrades.

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NathM Jan 23, 2018 at 20:25 UTC

DragonsRule wrote:

NathM wrote:

v1709 only has 2 types of media

Now, instead of having separate media and packages for Windows 10 Pro (volume licensing version), Windows 10 Enterprise, and Windows 10 Education, all three will be bundled together.

and the other media has Windows 10 Home, Windows 10 S and Windows 10 Pro in it.

So Windows 10 Pro OEM or Retail is called Consumer while Windows 10 Pro VL is called Business?That”s just brilliant.

No, Windows 10 Business is another SKU that is available with a Microsoft 365 Business subscription. Its not included in either of those types of media I mentioned.

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I”ve been wondering this too.

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Jan 23, 2018 at 20:27 UTC

NathM wrote:

DragonsRule wrote:

NathM wrote:

v1709 only has 2 types of media

Now, instead of having separate media and packages for Windows 10 Pro (volume licensing version), Windows 10 Enterprise, and Windows 10 Education, all three will be bundled together.

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and the other media has Windows 10 Home, Windows 10 S and Windows 10 Pro in it.

So Windows 10 Pro OEM or Retail is called Consumer while Windows 10 Pro VL is called Business?That”s just brilliant.

No, Windows 10 Business is another SKU that is available with a Microsoft 365 Business subscription. Its not included in either of those types of media I mentioned.

OP said some of his stuff shows as Consumer and some as Business, but he does not have a 365 subscription.
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Jan 23, 2018 at 20:28 UTC

DragonsRule wrote:

So Windows 10 Pro OEM or Retail is called Consumer while Windows 10 Pro VL is called Business?That”s just brilliant.

That”s what it looks like. I actually just looked at VAMT, and it does appear that the “consumer” workstations show up as “Retail” and the “business” as “GVLK”.

As you said, brilliant.

Can MS be any more stupid and/or confusing?

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NathM Jan 23, 2018 at 20:30 UTC

DragonsRule wrote:

NathM wrote:

DragonsRule wrote:

NathM wrote:

v1709 only has 2 types of media

Now, instead of having separate media and packages for Windows 10 Pro (volume licensing version), Windows 10 Enterprise, and Windows 10 Education, all three will be bundled together.

and the other media has Windows 10 Home, Windows 10 S and Windows 10 Pro in it.

So Windows 10 Pro OEM or Retail is called Consumer while Windows 10 Pro VL is called Business?That”s just brilliant.

No, Windows 10 Business is another SKU that is available with a Microsoft 365 Business subscription. Its not included in either of those types of media I mentioned.

OP said some of his stuff shows as Consumer and some as Business, but he does not have a 365 subscription.

Business editions include Pro (VL), Education, and Enterprise.

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Jan 23, 2018 at 20:31 UTC

NathM wrote:

DragonsRule wrote:

NathM wrote:

DragonsRule wrote:

NathM wrote:

v1709 only has 2 types of media

Now, instead of having separate media and packages for Windows 10 Pro (volume licensing version), Windows 10 Enterprise, and Windows 10 Education, all three will be bundled together.

and the other media has Windows 10 Home, Windows 10 S and Windows 10 Pro in it.

So Windows 10 Pro OEM or Retail is called Consumer while Windows 10 Pro VL is called Business?That”s just brilliant.

No, Windows 10 Business is another SKU that is available with a Microsoft 365 Business subscription. Its not included in either of those types of media I mentioned.

OP said some of his stuff shows as Consumer and some as Business, but he does not have a 365 subscription.

Business editions include Pro (VL), Education, and Enterprise.

That”s what I said, that you said “no” to, above.
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Jan 23, 2018 at 20:32 UTC

The way it is licensed should not dictate if it is business or consumer. That makes no sense. It”s all Win10 Pro. More so when the “consumer”/”Retail” license is an OEM license on a business class Dell machine.

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Jan 23, 2018 at 20:33 UTC

Serge7400 wrote:

The way it is licensed should not dictate if it is business or consumer. That makes no sense. It”s all Win10 Pro.

Agreed. I”m not sure what MS is thinking on this one.

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